On hell and Doug Batchelor
I know, I know, it’s been AGES since I’ve said anything (and longer since I’ve said anything worth reading). Rest assured, oh three-point-two-five readers, I am still alive, and I still have Opinions on Things that Need to be Addressed.
For today’s Opinion, I’ll start with Doug Batchelor‘s recent sermon on women in not in the ministry. This was fucking appalling, and I’m ashamed that people weren’t walking out of his sermon in droves. There is no excuse for misogyny. None. Doug Batchelor needs a restraining order to keep him away from pulpits, and his ovis-audience needs to check their cud before they chew it. (Although I suppose these people seem like the type who blindly swallow, but that may not be the best metaphor….)
Chiefly amongst my uncharitable toughts toward the mallustrous preacher man is that I hope purgatory is real, or that hell is temporary, but I also hope that purgatory/hell is individualized per a person’s sins. My hell, for example, would be full of engineers who dam rivers and that abomination of imitation chocolate, carob. And from that experience, I expect I would learn to respect others’ work and not be so quick to stuff what appears to be chocolate in my mouth. Doug Batchelor’s hell, I hope, would be full of women who are more intelligent than he is, and not only preach but are fucking preachERS. I also believe, in this imaginary purgatory/hell, that close-minded people will take longer to learn their lessons, and in doing so, be there longer. Batchelor’s going to steam for awhile, I think. Though I prefer not to conjecture on the length of my interment.
Quote out of context, from the comments at the end of the Spectrum article: “at this time in our denomination the only thing that ordination means is that a fully qualified minister has a penis.”
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Chelsey replied:
April 6th, 2010 at 10:57
I saw that. I also liked this one:
“How are we supposed to spread the Gospel and say we believe in equality when in order to be qualified to spread the Gospel through pastoring a church, you need to have a penis?”
Somehow, I think this explains Batchelor’s bad logic: In heaven, we will all be equals, but we can’t practice or aspire to that while on earth.
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Oscar replied:
June 10th, 2010 at 06:02
You can still bring people to God is just the preaching part. Just pray that God can help you see that, it’s not mans idea or law its Gods. I can say there are women out there that do a very good job in preaching and answering tons of questions but if this comes from God who are we to question God. Its like the Ten Commandments people say or think we don’t have to follow and that’s a lie we still do and why because God said it. I hope this help any. God bless
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Chelsey replied:
June 10th, 2010 at 10:22
Dude. Last time I checked, the Bible was written by people. Men, in fact. Not God. So it’s men saying only men should be preachers. And I see that as more of a observation of their cultural experience in time than a proclamation of “God’s law” for all time.
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What frustrates me is the fact that because Doug Bachelor is…well…Doug Bachelor, people believe every single thing he says, be it right or wrong. Come on, people. Human beings are fallible creatures prone to mistakes in reasoning, belief, and logic. Doug Bachelor is no exception to this rule.
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I love it!
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women actually delevated themselves when they chose to be ‘equal’ to men.God and Jesus both elevated women, and gave them very important, if not extremely essential tasks.
i suggest raising your standards.
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need proof? look at chelsey’s use of bad language…you really believe that’s the kind of women men desire?
would any parent teach or accept that language from their daughters? it’s not only unbecoming, it’s embarassing.
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Speaking of use of bad language, I had to look up “delevated” just now to make sure it wasn’t actually a ‘word.’
Oooh! Does this comment make me a troll?
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Chelsey replied:
January 24th, 2012 at 16:39
Ha, ha. You troll! I dunno, I guess my question is, does Stevo’s use of bad language make him unbecoming, embarrassing, and undesirable? By his logic, it would seem so.
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