Comments on: My fellow Americans http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/2010/02/my-fellow-americans/ clever would be nice Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:39:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chelsey http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/2010/02/my-fellow-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-3039 Chelsey Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:30:21 +0000 http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/?p=1599#comment-3039 I don't disagree, but the fact remains that in order to have an 1984 society, you have to have a totalitarian regime that controls everything. Fundamentally, Republicans are against "big government." They may be duped into it in the name of national security, which I think is a grievous mistake, but I think there are limits to what they would accept. Regardless, Orwell's point about the words "fascism," "patriotism," and "democracy" is prescient. I don’t disagree, but the fact remains that in order to have an 1984 society, you have to have a totalitarian regime that controls everything. Fundamentally, Republicans are against “big government.” They may be duped into it in the name of national security, which I think is a grievous mistake, but I think there are limits to what they would accept.

Regardless, Orwell’s point about the words “fascism,” “patriotism,” and “democracy” is prescient.

]]> By: Ted http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/2010/02/my-fellow-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-3038 Ted Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:29:11 +0000 http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/?p=1599#comment-3038 Wow, you're kidding about conservatives worrying about the USA turning into 1984 right? Last I checked it was the Republicans who built secret prisons that people (including American citizens) have disappeared into to be tortured. Oh, and what about the illegal wiretapping of American citizens that the... wait for it... Republicans initiated and that us crazy liberals have been protesting. And don't get me started on the anti-intellectualism permeating the current "conservativism" (Sarah Palin, anybody?) Granted nobody I know of has called Obama Emmanuel Goldstein yet and there probably isn't a literal room 101 at Gitmo, but to say conservatives fear turning the country into 1984 doesn't reflect the reality that they ARE turning the country into 1984. Wow, you’re kidding about conservatives worrying about the USA turning into 1984 right? Last I checked it was the Republicans who built secret prisons that people (including American citizens) have disappeared into to be tortured. Oh, and what about the illegal wiretapping of American citizens that the… wait for it… Republicans initiated and that us crazy liberals have been protesting. And don’t get me started on the anti-intellectualism permeating the current “conservativism” (Sarah Palin, anybody?) Granted nobody I know of has called Obama Emmanuel Goldstein yet and there probably isn’t a literal room 101 at Gitmo, but to say conservatives fear turning the country into 1984 doesn’t reflect the reality that they ARE turning the country into 1984.

]]> By: Cranky-faced Knitter http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/2010/02/my-fellow-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-3037 Cranky-faced Knitter Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:39:18 +0000 http://chelseywaters.com/soapbox/?p=1599#comment-3037 Yeah, I have to agree, here. If you listen to the words of both sides of the political spectrum, they're the same. But the sentiments underlying the words...are they the same, or not? It's almost impossible to be certain of someone's intentions, especially if they themselves aren't certain. Yeah, I have to agree, here. If you listen to the words of both sides of the political spectrum, they’re the same. But the sentiments underlying the words…are they the same, or not? It’s almost impossible to be certain of someone’s intentions, especially if they themselves aren’t certain.

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